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In Search of Lost Time
- 1 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/17(水) 02:07:12.60 .net
- テキストをぽつぽつ読むだけのスレ。
煽り合い等を避けたいのでコテハンご遠慮ください。
- 2 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/17(水) 02:38:19.91 .net
- Who hears Françoise's voice?
Has she let her voice out to the world in reality?
- 3 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/18(木) 01:06:31.64 .net
- It is him, but only the ebb and tide of his memory.
In other words, there is no voice audible.
- 4 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/19(金) 02:04:50.91 .net
- An act of intuition...
To shed tears is the one in terms of involuntary associations.
- 5 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/20(土) 01:31:22.04 .net
- Is it true?:
The characters never existed except in the auther's mind...
- 6 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/21(日) 01:33:27.34 .net
- It is not a description of the past.
It is an evocation somehow.
Think about the way in which the images were chosen.
- 7 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/22(月) 07:03:03.30 .net
- Where do the gods exist in his refracted, or "prismatic" if you like, world?
Are they dissolved in music and temples?
Or they have just gone away to somewhere?
- 8 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/23(火) 00:35:55.30 .net
- Past is not just past.
It is fantasy.
- 9 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/24(水) 01:11:56.23 .net
- This is the novel that a within-eavesdropper is writing in it.
- 10 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/24(水) 11:23:55.48 .net
- このスレの趣旨は、何なんですか?
Proust の "La Recherche du temps perdu" の英語訳を読むためのスレですか?
- 11 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/25(木) 01:38:29.52 .net
- >>10テキストをぽつぽつ読むだけのスレ。
But certain favourite roles are played by "us" so often before the public and rehearsed so carefully.
- 12 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/25(木) 10:17:37.72 .net
- テキストを読むって、どのテキストのこと?
もしプルーストなら、誰が英訳したもの?
その英訳の第何章の第何部?
それを明らかにしてくれないと、
英訳を持ってる俺でさえ、
参加できないじゃん。
それとも、一人だけで楽しむスレ?
- 13 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/25(木) 11:25:17.07 .net
- 気味が悪くってだれも近づいてこないw
- 14 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/26(金) 01:10:25.65 .net
- >>12 Never mind.
>>13 You're absolutely right.
Anyway, you've got to remove the objects from the contengencies of time.
How?
Link them together by means of words.
- 15 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/26(金) 12:01:07.17 .net
- 占有と重複で削除依頼できるんじゃね
- 16 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/27(土) 01:27:59.68 .net
- >>15 Maybe.
What if Englishness was omitted from this novel?
- 17 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/28(日) 01:55:09.86 .net
- Tea as the sense of time, for examle.
The taste of differenceness can be seen on the table of history,
It is, of course, not for eating.
- 18 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/29(月) 00:19:29.50 .net
- "Indeed," said the Duke, "'mentality,' you say.
I must make a note of that and trot it out one of these days."
- 19 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/30(火) 02:07:05.37 .net
- Style is the manner of an author.
- 20 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/10/31(水) 02:56:12.64 .net
- Metaphorical imagery...
But in a loose sense.
- 21 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/01(木) 01:35:19.34 .net
- "And in historial, when he was concious and out of danger,
and when they told him that his father was dead,
he began to laugh..."
- 22 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/02(金) 02:51:02.45 .net
- What does conversation mean?
And what description?
Think about why the sentences are so long.
- 23 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/03(土) 02:45:16.03 .net
- "For a long time, I used to go to bed early."
Why is that sentence the opening one?
- 24 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/04(日) 02:52:26.15 .net
- It is the key to the theme.
The centre of the novel is in a sensitive boy's room.
- 25 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/05(月) 00:55:25.08 .net
- The author's metaphors are dreams.
- 26 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/06(火) 01:04:58.39 .net
- A woman is conceived from some strain in the position of thigh.
- 27 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/07(水) 01:01:16.99 .net
- The quest of the woman...
That's why disappointment is one of the issues.
- 28 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/08(木) 01:18:51.64 .net
- The problem is that all comes from his habits of sleeping and waking.
- 29 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/09(金) 02:00:14.98 .net
- The process of deduction.
Natural or not...
- 30 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/10(土) 01:03:14.90 .net
- The body's memory...
What is "room" then?
- 31 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/10(土) 18:43:23.97 .net
- The threshold of time and forms...
The unseen walls keep changing.
- 32 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/12(月) 01:07:57.67 .net
- Then a canopy...
Is it buoyancy or limit?
- 33 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/12(月) 21:16:59.71 .net
- One of the elements of the novel is the various ways
in which a person is seen by various eyes.
- 34 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/14(水) 01:20:13.37 .net
- "Comparative"...
Does it mean "otherness"?
- 35 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/17(土) 02:22:24.44 .net
- Moonlight and shadow.
Boy's imagination.
A magnificient mechamism which makes mean objects into someone's dreams.
- 36 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/18(日) 02:13:29.97 .net
- How about sound?
Silence is not soundless.
Imagine the movement of silence.
- 37 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/19(月) 01:03:47.99 .net
- The author's metaphoric system bears a kind of everlasting fuel.
- 38 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/19(月) 20:10:58.37 .net
- The close association of the visible and the heard.
You have to listen carefully to shadow sound.
- 39 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/21(水) 00:20:19.17 .net
- The condition of mind must be examined befoehand.
Expectation?
For what?
- 40 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/22(木) 00:44:06.42 .net
- Beauty and authenticity.
One rushed in, the other resulted.
- 41 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/23(金) 02:04:06.78 .net
- How were they described in the text?
Or how were they presented in the author's sense?
The various layers and levels of sense in the author's metaphors should be issued.
- 42 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/24(土) 01:49:50.10 .net
- "The portrait says:
'What I have loved, what has made me suffer, what I have never ceased to behold,
is this.'"
- 43 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/25(日) 01:21:52.58 .net
- It is no more than luminous wedge.
- 44 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/25(日) 23:58:17.43 .net
- What is the artistic importance then?
- 45 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/27(火) 01:30:18.54 .net
- A sort of shock.
Be shocking.
- 46 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/28(水) 00:50:41.35 .net
- It could be called to confusing sensation.
- 47 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/11/29(木) 23:32:12.55 .net
- "Never mind. Waiter, some mullet for Madame and a risotto for me."
A fresh and prolonged silence.
- 48 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/12/01(土) 00:44:54.17 .net
- What is the meaning and emotion beyond words?
Does the question go into the meaning of music?
Or time itself?
- 49 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/12/03(月) 02:13:18.03 .net
- First of all, it should be questioned if one’s memory could be the theme of fiction.
Philosophy, Bergsonian account, of course, might be less meaningful in terms of narrative.
- 50 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/12/06(木) 02:10:12.10 .net
- A feeling of elation and immortality always comes to the author in the manner of "sudden death."
Is it a sort of counterbalancing act?
- 51 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/12/07(金) 00:19:09.98 .net
- "and thus the beauty of life, an expression somehow devoid of meaning,
a stage this side of art..."
- 52 :吾輩は名無しである:2012/12/08(土) 02:02:35.84 .net
- It should be something more than memory.
Then comes meaning.
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- For a long time,I went to bed early.
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